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All live service games should be nuked. Sorry not sorry.

maybe I don't really understand what a "live service" game is, but what about like fortnite or warzone etc, you are those considered live service and is there an issue with those?

Games like Fortnite and Warzone get a pass cause they're free to play games that are technically "live service". Then there's the bullcrap pay full msrp for "live service". The latter games tend to always fail.

longhornsk57 wrote:

Those are live service games. But they are also free to play games. So people don't care about them nickle and dimming to make money. As its a free game. And those are purely cosmetic purchases. The issue people have is when you buy a $70 game, and it turns out to be a live service game that is constantly putting ads in your face to buy DLC. They then also seem to design the game around road blocks and frustrating the player in hopes they pay for the micro-transactions to make the game not so frustrating. Meaning they are not just cosmetic. They also seem to force ads on you more than f2p games do. There are two types of these games. Ones that are done correctly like Fortnite that people don't have a problem with. And then all the other crap we get like Destiny 2, Diablo 4, Overwatch and so many others.

Oh ok. I guess I don't really understand the Diablo 4 one because I bought that game and beat it and did a little end game and never bought anything extra.

Also some games like CoD cold war for instance has a battle pass, but the game was fine without it but you could get it for $10 and get cool guns and operators and stuff, I never had an issue with it.

I guess if it was pay to win or pay to get things that really should just be in the game I could see. But I see the point I mean I appreciate normal games like Persona 3R I'm playing now it's just a game no added BS or extra transactions etc

@longhornsk57 Diablo 4 intentionally slowed the players progress down, making the grind longer and harder. Then released the season battle passes that give you xp boosts and material boosts. Which then do not even bring you back up to what the game was initially like before seasons came out and they nerfed everything into the ground. Their entire game design is around making you play as long as possible in hopes you spend money on the battle pass and other cosmetics. Which is what people have a problem with.

CoD I personally think also falls on the Fortnite side. You can't really buy things in CoD that I'm aware of to make it pay to win, or to give you a shortcut in game. Its just cosmetic stuff isn't it? I don't play CoD so I don't know and don't pay attention to it.

Diablo IV cap grind was pretty rough and they made it almost impossible to cap for endgame after seasons launched. Unless you spend every waking hour doing very repetitive grinds - and then they made the Uber Lilith boss- which is pretty trash because they meant for you to scale to it over a really long haul until people busted it. I preferred the monthly fee model honestly.

Archer wrote:

ya you're pretty much right about CoD. For D4 I think I just didn't play it enough to be effected by what you're saying but that definitely sounds pretty horrible and I would absolutely not support some BS like that.

Pay to win I wish would just go away. I don't mind the cosmetic stuff though that is fine. $65 for a horse though in D4 is pretty stupid though. People that buy it have more money than brains. A stupid DLC cosmetic worth just as much or more than the game? So dumb.

Finn wrote:


I agree about pay-to-win, it needs to go away. You know what sucks about the cosmetic stuff, though? Back in my day kids were judged by their peers based on what brand of sneakers they were wearing to school, or if you had a Starter brand jacket or not. These days they're judged by what skins they own in Fortnite and whatever other free-to-play game that becomes the flavor of the week.
https://kotaku.com/study-fortnite-free-to-play-gam...

I gotta admit honestly I'm considering downloading Fortnite just for the skins, especially when I saw they have crazy stuff like Goku, Patrick Mahomes, and all sorts of crazy things

yoooooooo! Well it took a while but i finally got a ps5. Struggling finding my next game to play though.

I played God of War, ratchet & clank and the Spiderman games. All epic but what do i try now? Is the playstation plus worth it?

Horizon Forbidden West is pretty darn good. Demons Souls remake is awesome too. Final Fantasy 16 is a more recent exclusive. And if you haven’t played Ghost of Tsushima on PS4 the PS5 version I heard was great. And upcoming games between now and April like Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade look pretty solid.

Mendo wrote:

I think the PS Extra would be worth it for you since youve barely played anything.

Days Gone. Underrated exclusive, imo.

I second that. It has a horde mechanic for the zombies that is really unique. Also, if you haven’t played The Last of Us Part I and II, the PS5 remasters are beautiful.


Heavyd814life wrote:

I loved days gone. I would be all in if that story were to continue.

Didn't the Bend Studios owner lose his mind because Sony refuse to make a sequel? Something like that. I'm not sure if he quit or not, but I know they haven't made anything since or announced anything.

Supposedly, they’re working on a new IP open world game.

justin_credible wrote:

Days Gone was great. Too bad it didn’t get much love commercially.

Mendo wrote:

Those are all solid. I'm currently playing through Hogwarts Legacy. Recently, I played Sifu. If you're into hard kung fu games, it's absolutely amazing. Astro's Playroom was pretty cool and it's free!. PS+ is definitely worth it if you like a variety of games. Sackboy, Returnal, Stray, and Kena are all available on there plus tons of other games. Horizon Forbidden West is on there. I loved the first one, but I can't get into the sequel for some reason.

For anyone just getting a PS5 I always recommend getting the middle tier of PS+ for 1-3 months. It's a great way to try some fantastic games in the catalog and either keep doing PS+ to play them, or find out which ones you like and go find them used and let PS+ expire.

PS+ Extra I agree that it's especially good if you're just getting into ps4/ps5 games.
Once you've played them or bought them, it's less worth it.

My first year with it was great, but I've played everything I wanted from the catalog now and it's more of a wait-and-see what each month adds.

Yeah, For someone who doesn’t have a lot of PlayStation Exclusive titles PlayStation extra sounds like the bees knees But for someone like me I look away from PlayStation plus subscriptions, because I rarely play online and I own most of the stuff from years past.

TalonJedi87 wrote:

I'd love to replay. Their launch screwed up the rep and sales, but it ended up being absolutely awesome.

MrBean wrote:

PS5 remaster would be pretty cool. If they can do Until Dawn I don't see why they can't do Days Gone.

thinking about getting my first ps5 - free ps4 to ps5 game upgrades still a thing?

For most games yes. Some obnoxious companies charge for a PS5 upgrade like for Callisto Protocol and Call of Duty. Those companies can eat all the donkey peen.

I don't have a problem paying $10 to upgrade a game. It's not free for these companies to make a last-gen game take advantage of current gen hardware. And it's completely optional.

i have searched for different lists - nothing seems to be fully up to date.

Anyone have a good source on the free or paid ps4 to ps5 upgrade games?

PS5 will be here Tuesday,

Balan Wonderworld is one

Headshot wrote:


I can't find a complete up-to-date list at the moment, but just know that for Sony's 1st party games, Horizon: Forbidden West in early 2022 was their last game to support the free PS4-to-PS5 upgrade. Any game they've released after that will charge $10 and any game released before that is still free.

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I was gonna wait for the PC port anyways, I'm not buying games until end of November this year, but after playing FF16 I knew this was coming after they said the next game was next gen exclusive, I was like oh boy. This won't scale well for performance mode. FF16 already looked pretty dumpy and it still couldn't even nail 60fps. I'm envious of people who are down playing action oriented titles at half refresh, I'm too spoiled this late in my life.

Buy stock in the glasses now.

PizzaTheHutt wrote:

Yep, and at least up here it was Mondetta shirts, Request jeans... lol

Mendo wrote:

Yeah, you can Go wrong with Horizon. If you have never played it then jump into the first then go IMMEDIATLEY into the 2nd! and get that DLC. It's exclusive to PS5 and man oh man is it great.

Last of us remastered is a good one also, if you never played or it's been awhile. Part two at least has a $10 upgrade if you already bought Last of Us 2. Gran Turismo 7 is a great racer if you are looking for one to add some variety to your library. Street Fighter 6 or any of the last two Mortal Combat games are good additions to have for fighters.

I was actually impressed with Mortal Combat 11... I like how the story was done as story modes in fighters, I find are usually toss in like a bad afterthought.

Who has been playing Hell Divers 2? I just got it yesterday but I need to Plat Prince of Persia and I decided to Plat Tales of the New Borderlands.. I said I was not going to because the two main characters in the game are so damn annoying but I am not sure what is worse.

I plan on "Diving" into Hell Divers 2 next week for sure. Can't wait.

Helldivers 2 is very fun. I didn’t care about it but my pal talked me into it and it’s been a good time. Not nearly as obnoxious other games of the same style.

Google “helldivers Joel” and find some neat stuff out.

Argh, was going to just load it up and the disk is bad. I need to go to Walmart and return it… sadly they have none in stock and will have to refund and reorder online… I think GameStop is still out also.

Most people I’ve seen talk about it like it, so I hope you will too. To be honest, I love looter shooters, but I was really disappointed with Helldivers 2. I played it for a couple of hours and immediately sold it and the original Helldivers that was sitting on my shelf.

Finn wrote:

I'm really enjoying helldivers 2, I'm playing the steam version but same thing. I like the simplicity and team play, along with getting cool upgrades and stuff