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savior
| | #1 posted December 8, 2004 at 11:34pm (EST) |
http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=3978
Looks like there are some significant load times for most/all of the demos. That could equal serious battery drain and gamer annoyance. Sounds pretty bad to me. |
Sartori
 BTRs
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| | #2 posted December 8, 2004 at 11:45pm (EST) |
Yeah, not too sure about those 20 second load times there..
// Sartori
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Zenzrevenge
  
| | #3 posted December 8, 2004 at 11:46pm (EST) |
load times are more of a software issue then anything,
"I'm sorry like Atari whose the cousin to Coleco" - Andre 3000 |
Avro
 
| | #4 posted December 9, 2004 at 12:53am (EST) |
One word "Demo" you really cannot base anything on them... you can only base it on the final product... thats what will hold the facts.
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lordkaosu
| | #5 posted December 9, 2004 at 8:03am (EST) |
Demo's have a lot of crappy loading times, the software makers will cut it down to the minimum where they can(at least the ones that are worth a damn).
-Kaosu |
Sartori
BTRs
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| | #6 posted December 9, 2004 at 12:22pm (EST) |
Avro wrote:
> One word "Demo" you really cannot base anything on them... you can only base it on the final product... thats what
> will hold the facts.
>
By this logic you might as well not even release demos. Demos are there to woo the consumer and expose them to the product - don't you think they would have minimized some 20 second load times if they could?
Demos are great and serve purpose: the one of RE4 I played way back when instantly sold me, where as PoP2's deffered me from a product I was previously interested in.
// Sartori
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Avro
| | #7 posted December 9, 2004 at 12:41pm (EST) |
While I kinda agree, its a demo... wich screams unfinished. The Demo could have been rushed do not judge a game until it comes out.... I will rate the final product. not a incomplete demo.
Gametz wants you!
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Zenzrevenge
| | #8 posted December 9, 2004 at 1:13pm (EST) |
Regardless, this isnt' a bad sign for the psp, looks at the ps2, it had HORRIBLE load times. This isn't a psp issue it is a software issue.
"I'm sorry like Atari whose the cousin to Coleco" - Andre 3000 |
lordkaosu
| | #9 posted December 9, 2004 at 2:10pm (EST) |
I find the demo's for PS2 almost unplayable because of the rediculous load times. You'll play the game for a couple of minutes, after the run is over, you have to reload the game, it won't let you just start over. Total crap, you spend more time waiting on it to load then playing the demo itself.
-Kaosu |
mackey
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| | #10 posted December 9, 2004 at 3:05pm (EST) |
Sony's inability to put the neccessary resources into developing swift hardware never ceases to amaze me.
You'd think being Home Electronics Gods with the biggest installed video game console base of any competing system would make them at least a little ambitious to produce a quality product.
This, however, is apparently not the case at all. They just don't give a fudge.
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Avro
| | #11 posted December 9, 2004 at 3:29pm (EST) |
I have not really been bitten by the Sony defect bug yet and have not experienced the problems others have... but it's really hard to find a company that cares in todays world.... Microsoft sure does not, they keep cramming that OS down our throats and pump out shatty software like there is no tomorrow so I would rank them worse then Sony in that respect.. BUT that still does not mean Sony should not address this issue.... Big corps just want to screw you over.... but there are exceptions. I belive Nintendo is one. Simply because there hardware is sound and customer service is top notch which is more then I can say for MS 
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savior
| | #12 posted December 9, 2004 at 10:49pm (EST) |
Zenzrevenge wrote:
> Regardless, this isnt' a bad sign for the psp, looks at the ps2, it had HORRIBLE load
> times. This isn't a psp issue it is a software issue.
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PS2 draws power from an outlet. The PSP draws power from a battery. Major load times on one is not the same as major load times on the other. |
Millington
  
| | #13 posted December 10, 2004 at 3:52am (EST) |
here was psp's first bad sign
-Chad is Rad |
Guru
| | #14 posted December 10, 2004 at 4:54am (EST) |
Bleh |
Oreo
(abandoned)
| | #15 posted December 10, 2004 at 5:38am (EST) |
I think the PSP will flop and fail just a bit above the N-Gage, I mean yeah sony fan boys might buy it but c'mon Nintendo owns the handheld market. I mean I like the competition coming in but I honestly don't see it as competition by any means. I think Sony is making a very bad mistake and this will be a short lived console that they won't ever attempt again. |
lordkaosu
| | #16 posted December 10, 2004 at 8:01am (EST) |
That's what folks said when the PSX hit the market...Nintendo "owns" it, now look at them. People love Sony, don't count them out before they've even stepped in the ring.
-Kaosu |
Avro
| | #17 posted December 10, 2004 at 10:40am (EST) |
Kaosu wrote:
> That's what folks said when the PSX hit the market...Nintendo "owns" it, now look at them.
> People love Sony, don't count them out before they've even stepped in the ring.
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I love how people dismiss something before it's out. The PSP will in no way be even close to the flop that was N-gage... First thing they have going for them is WAY more support and some pretty good first party developers Nokia did not have that.... We will see but I simply do not see the PSP failing anytime soon. I see Sony competing with Nintendo in the portable market for sometime but still see Nintendo as #1 in this area. Maybe you people should wait until the PSP comes out before dismissing it? bah, thats to much to ask.
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Guru
| | #18 posted December 10, 2004 at 11:31am (EST) |
Kaosu wrote:
> That's what folks said when the PSX hit the market...Nintendo "owns" it, now look at them. People love Sony, don't
> count them out before they've even stepped in the ring.
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ownt
I was gonna say something similar to that this morning.  Bastid |
Avro
| | #19 posted December 10, 2004 at 12:00pm (EST) |
Guru wrote:
> Kaosu wrote:
>> That's what folks said when the PSX hit the market...Nintendo "owns" it, now look at
> them. People love Sony, don't
>> count them out before they've even stepped in the ring.
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> ownt
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> I was gonna say something similar to that this morning. Bastid
Hah your slow........ 
he beat me to the punch aswell.
Gametz wants you!
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grkangel10
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| | #20 posted December 10, 2004 at 12:03pm (EST) |
I wouldn't necessarily say "ownt." I agree that Sony will definitely not flop like the Ngage, but Nintendo's hold on the handheld market vs their previous hold on the console market are like night and day. One is 95% or so and the other was half that. Its going to be a lot harder for them to muscle their way in this time around than it was in the N64/PSX era. |
Guru
| | #21 posted December 10, 2004 at 12:05pm (EST) |
Their Japanese lineup is strong. I can't imagine it failing in Japan. |
Avro
| | #22 posted December 10, 2004 at 12:25pm (EST) |
Same, I am not saying Sony will overtake Nintendo that just be plain stupid.... but Sony should remain pretty healthy with a profitable piece of the portable market.
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lordkaosu
| | #23 posted December 10, 2004 at 1:11pm (EST) |
It'll be interesting either way, there are things on both DS and PSP I'm looking forward to.
-Kaosu |
Oreo
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| | #24 posted December 10, 2004 at 6:07pm (EST) |
Avro wrote:
> Maybe you people should wait until the PSP comes out before dismissing it?
maybe you should wait until its out before defending it |
Guru
| | #25 posted December 10, 2004 at 6:08pm (EST) |
There was nothing wrong with his statement.
<el_hefe> A - Guru said one time you were hitting on some chick, and it ended up being a dog.
<Jefe> I am a transexual, give me special needs.
<Rancid> I told my wife I can't wait till she's 40 so I can trade her in for two 20's |
Oreo
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| | #26 posted December 10, 2004 at 6:17pm (EST) |
and there was nothing wrong with my statement |
Guru
| | #27 posted December 10, 2004 at 6:19pm (EST) |
You can defend things that aren't out yet (In NA anyhow).
It's not like he's saying it's the best ever.
<el_hefe> A - Guru said one time you were hitting on some chick, and it ended up being a dog.
<Jefe> I am a transexual, give me special needs.
<Rancid> I told my wife I can't wait till she's 40 so I can trade her in for two 20's |
nalod6
(frozen)
| | #28 posted December 10, 2004 at 6:20pm (EST) |
According to the newest GI, the PSP's battery will last about 4-6 hours for the average game, depending on the amount of action and speed of game (if the system has to work harder, it will drain the battery more) and depending on the intensity of the backlight and volume. Sony hopes that as technology gets better down the road, that # will increase to up to 14 hours (though, I wouldn't count on it )
~nalod6
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lordkaosu
| | #29 posted December 10, 2004 at 7:45pm (EST) |
I wouldn't say that's too bad for disc-media, but only fair for a portable.
-Kaosu |
j_factor
| | #30 posted December 10, 2004 at 10:51pm (EST) |
Battery life sounds fine to me. I've never understood why people are so uppity about battery life on handhelds. Do you honestly play a portable for more than 4 hours straight?
Use a bloody recharger, and quit whinging.
The latest manifesto of pure genius: Aerosmith sells you a Buick |
Mewtwo
| | #31 posted December 10, 2004 at 11:18pm (EST) |
j_factor wrote:
> Battery life sounds fine to me. I've never understood why people are so uppity about
> battery life on handhelds. Do you honestly play a portable for more than 4 hours straight?
> Use a bloody recharger, and quit whinging.
The WHOLE point behind a portable is just that.. to be portable. Some people don't want to carry extra batteries or charges. Also you can't ALWAYS find some place to plug it in if your traveling. Granted this doesnt' apply to everyone but for the purpose of Traveling a low battery life sucks. What good is it if your gaming system dies after 3 hours if your trip is going to take you 8+ hours and you have nothing else to do? Yeah...
Mewtwo
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lordkaosu
| | #32 posted December 10, 2004 at 11:39pm (EST) |
You may end up playing a portable more then 4 hours before you have an opportunity to charge or plug in, that's where you run into problems. For a lot of the time, it's probably not an issue, but when it does become one, it's a real hassle.
-Kaosu |
j_factor
| | #33 posted December 10, 2004 at 11:52pm (EST) |
I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters. Trains have outlets.
I used to travel with a Lynx, never had any problems.
The latest manifesto of pure genius: Aerosmith sells you a Buick |
Mewtwo
| | #34 posted December 10, 2004 at 11:55pm (EST) |
j_factor wrote:
> I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters.
Correction, Not all Cars have Cigarrete Lighters. In fact I believe now you have to ask for them to be included? Or something like that. I know someone who's gotten a newer car and his does not have a Ciragette lighter or ash trays. So not ALL cars have them. Older ones I'd say most likely.. but newer ones? Maybe not.
Mewtwo
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j_factor
| #35 posted December 10, 2004 at 11:57pm (EST)
edited December 10, 2004 at 11:57pm (EST) |
Mewtwo wrote:
> j_factor wrote:
>> I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters.
>
> Correction, Not all Cars have Cigarrete Lighters. In fact I believe now you have to ask
> for them to be included? Or something like that. I know someone who's gotten a newer car
> and his does not have a Ciragette lighter or ash trays. So not ALL cars have them. Older
> ones I'd say most likely.. but newer ones? Maybe not.
They still have the lighter plug, just not the actual lighter. afaik.
The latest manifesto of pure genius: Aerosmith sells you a Buick |
Mewtwo
| | #36 posted December 11, 2004 at 12:03am (EST) |
j_factor wrote:
> Mewtwo wrote:
>> j_factor wrote:
> |>> I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters.
>>
>> Correction, Not all Cars have Cigarrete Lighters. In fact I believe now you have to
> ask
>> for them to be included? Or something like that. I know someone who's gotten a newer
> car
>> and his does not have a Ciragette lighter or ash trays. So not ALL cars have them.
> Older
>> ones I'd say most likely.. but newer ones? Maybe not.
>
> They still have the lighter plug, just not the actual lighter. afaik.
Hmm.. intersteing. I don't recall seeing even a hole or space for it at all. I'll have to look again though. You could be right. As I know they would use it as an adapter and a car NOT having it could be considered a handicap for things like that... But I still don't remember seeing it at all... anywhere... I'll have to check again.
Mewtwo
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savior
| | #37 posted December 11, 2004 at 12:50am (EST) |
j_factor wrote:
> I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters. Trains have
> outlets.
Does the PSP come with an adapter to charge it with your cigarette lighter? |
Noltillian
 
| | #38 posted December 11, 2004 at 1:10am (EST) |
I purchased a new vehicle and it came with 3 outlets minus the lighters. I'm pretty sure that this trend will continue and possibly even increase to one per seat just as cup holders have. Well, except for the cheap, basic car models. I don't think that the PSP will come with a cigarette lighter adapter but the accessory will be available for a reasonable cost. |
lordkaosu
| | #39 posted December 11, 2004 at 9:23am (EST) |
j_factor wrote:
> I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters. Trains have
> outlets.
>
> I used to travel with a Lynx, never had any problems.
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It happens, while not often, I suppose it just depends. I've had the situation arise every now and then where outlets are extremely limited and you're sharing with several people, everyone carrying cell-phones. Overall tho, I wouldn't even think about the battery life when I'm actually buying the item, it's just a plus if it lasts longer.
-Kaosu |
lordkaosu
| | #40 posted December 11, 2004 at 9:24am (EST) |
savior wrote:
> j_factor wrote:
>> I can't imagine such a situation arising. Cars have cigarrette lighters. Trains have
>> outlets.
>
> Does the PSP come with an adapter to charge it with your cigarette lighter?
Usually nothing does, but they're usually easily obtainable.
-Kaosu |
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