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Wii
 
| | #1 posted September 5, 2008 at 10:15pm (EST) |
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/USElection/2008/09/05/...
Palin's church wants to "pray away the gay"
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s church is promoting a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through the power of prayer.
“You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by homosexuality,” said an insert in the bulletin of the Wasilla Bible Church, where Palin has prayed since she was a child.
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Sounds like fun. I guess all gays worship the devil, right?
Of course, this is as revelant as Obama's connection to his old pastor. If you consider that important and feel the right to use it against him, it's open season on her.
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SmarmySir
 
| | #2 posted September 5, 2008 at 10:31pm (EST) |
Oh God.
Stop.
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chupaskabra
| | #3 posted September 5, 2008 at 10:52pm (EST) |
haha some religious people are so brainwashed. |
SmarmySir
| | #4 posted September 5, 2008 at 10:59pm (EST) |
Everyone is brainwashed.
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Avro
 
| | #5 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:04pm (EST) |
fudge that my brain is dirty! |
Sheesh
 
| | #6 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:06pm (EST) |
Tim wants us to stop picking on Little Red Riding Hood.
She's a religious nut case. That's the reason she was selected by Dobson, Reed, and others. McBush pandering to a losing cause.
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Wii
| | #7 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:16pm (EST) |
I just find it a bad move to throw your support to an extreme right wing ideal that portrays all gays as god haters during election time.
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millenium_dare
 
| | #8 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:36pm (EST) |
Sheesh wrote:
> Tim wants us to stop picking on Little Red Riding Hood.
>
> She's a religious nut case. That's the reason she was selected by
> Dobson, Reed, and others. McBush pandering to a losing cause.
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We'll see about that come election time....
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SmarmySir
| | #9 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:36pm (EST) |
Sheesh wrote:
> Tim wants us to stop picking on Little Red Riding Hood.
>
> She's a religious nut case. That's the reason she was selected by
> Dobson, Reed, and others. McBush pandering to a losing cause.
No, I just want irrelevant crap that doesn't have anything to do with the campaign to stop being posted.
That includes this, the whole pregnancy BS, Obama's racist preacher, etc, etc. None of those hold any water with the respecting candidates.
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Sheesh
| #10 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:39pm (EST)
edited September 5, 2008 at 11:39pm (EST) |
This issue is TOTALLY relevant to homosexuals who, if citizens, are able to vote in the United States.
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SmarmySir
| | #11 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:42pm (EST) |
If this makes Palin intolerant towards gays, then Obama's racist.
Also, it's possible to disagree with a gay person's lifestyle but still love him or her as a person (not that these people are doing that, specifically, as far as we know, but still).
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Picktor
 
| #12 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:44pm (EST)
edited September 5, 2008 at 11:44pm (EST) |
Wii wrote:
> http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/USElection/2008/09/05/...
>
> Palin's church wants to "pray away the gay"
> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
> ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s church is promoting
> a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through
> the power of prayer.
>
> “You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire to
> transform the lives of those impacted by homosexuality,” said an insert
> in the bulletin of the Wasilla Bible Church, where Palin has prayed
> since she was a child.
>
> -----------
>
> Sounds like fun. I guess all gays worship the devil, right?
>
> Of course, this is as revelant as Obama's connection to his old pastor.
> If you consider that important and feel the right to use it against
> him, it's open season on her.
>
>
Umm Wii maybe you should look at EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN CHURCH! Homosexuality is looked at as a major sin in all christian (the ones that follow the teachings of the new testament) religions.
There is no mention of homosexuals "Worshiping the devil" so way to put your own personal spin on it  .
There is a difference in "attempting to convert homosexuals" and saying "gosh darn American, they got what they deserved with 9/11!"
Totally different and no where near as extreme and far fetched..
You do realize that the bible is completely against homosexuality? Hence why conservatives oppose any marital rights for gay marriages....  |
Picktor
| | #13 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:45pm (EST) |
Sheesh wrote:
> This issue is TOTALLY relevant to homosexuals who, if citizens, are
> able to vote in the United States.
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And no where near as bad as what Osama's I mean Obama's pastor has preached for the last 20 years.... |
SmarmySir
| | #14 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:46pm (EST) |
I'm a Christian, but I don't oppose gay marriage. I'm not necessarily for, either.
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Picktor
| | #15 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:47pm (EST) |
"“You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by homosexuality."
She is a conservative... What is wrong with that statement? Again the bible opposes Homosexuality and any true christian does as well  |
Picktor
| | #16 posted September 5, 2008 at 11:47pm (EST) |
At this point I could care less. I dont have a family so I dont feel its relevant what I think. Now when I settle down I'm sure my stance will be very different. |
invisibleink
| | #17 posted September 6, 2008 at 12:43am (EST) |
the double standards between obama and palin are hilarious. sheesh kill yourself. like, right now
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Jeffro
 
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| | #18 posted September 6, 2008 at 12:55am (EST) |
Picktor wrote:
> "“You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love
> and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted
> by homosexuality."
>
> She is a conservative... What is wrong with that statement?
> Again the bible opposes Homosexuality and any true
> christian does as well
The Lord of the Rings is opposed to pure evil, get it? there both books hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
but yeah evil is bad and so is every Republican view ever crafted. Fudging retarded hillbillied closet-fagged gay-haters. At least the Democrats just sit around doing retarded crap that doesnt matter.
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Reed
| | #19 posted September 6, 2008 at 1:27am (EST) |
fudging gays |
Noltillian
 
| | #20 posted September 6, 2008 at 3:31am (EST) |
I tried to pray away my gay. I stopped when I realized that I wasn't religious OR gay.
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Avro
| | #21 posted September 6, 2008 at 3:49am (EST) |
Noltillian wrote:
> I tried to pray away my gay. I stopped when I realized that I wasn't
> religious OR gay.
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>
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Elmo
| | #22 posted September 6, 2008 at 4:31am (EST) |
TMNT wrote:
> fudging gays
Just because some people are gay along with some animals doesnt mean you should say something like that.
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Richie
 
 
| | #23 posted September 6, 2008 at 4:37am (EST) |
TMNT wrote:
> fudging gays
fudging arrogant, ignorant, smalll minded, right winged, "luke warm christian", smug dumbass
how do you like being called a "fudging" followed by a label that perfectly applies?
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Trash
| | #24 posted September 6, 2008 at 4:38am (EST) |
Richie wrote:
> TMNT wrote:
>> fudging gays
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> fudging arrogant, ignorant, smalll minded, right winged, "luke warm
> christian", smug dumbass
>
> how do you like being called a "fudging" followed by a label that
> perfectly applies?
FUDGING HIPPY
This site deserves a better class of trolls |
Richie
| | #25 posted September 6, 2008 at 4:42am (EST) |
Doesn't work. I'm not really a hippie I eat meat. I don't "push the boundaries" with various drugs.
I shower. I'd never name a child "moon" or "rainbow" or something else lame. Get over it gametz. I'm not a Hippie.
and yeah, at least spell it right you fudging tools.
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AlphakirA
 
| | #26 posted September 6, 2008 at 5:14am (EST) |
So wait...this has to do with Palin, but the racist church Obama attended since he was a child has nothing to do with him?
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benstylus
 
| #27 posted September 6, 2008 at 8:24am (EST)
edited September 6, 2008 at 8:25am (EST) |
Picktor wrote:
> Umm Wii maybe you should look at EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN CHURCH! Homosexuality
> is looked at as a major sin in all christian (the ones that follow
> the teachings of the new testament) religions.
>
> There is a difference in "attempting to convert homosexuals" and saying
> "gosh darn American, they got what they deserved with 9/11!"
>
> Totally different and no where near as extreme and far fetched..
>
> You do realize that the bible is completely against homosexuality?
> Hence why conservatives oppose any marital rights for gay marriages....
>
This is essentially what it boils down to. The vast majority of Christian churches view homosexuality as a sin.
When someone is "trapped" by their sins, the Christian thing to do would be to pray for them and try to help them overcome it, no matter what the sin may be. Of course, if the sin is also against the law (such as, I don't know, murder or something), punishment or reparations may be necessary.
The problem that happens all too often is people channel their hatred of the sin into hatred of the person committing the sin. The westboro baptist church is a good example of this with their "God hates ice cream mans" signs and rallies at the funerals of soldiers. Obviously, many gays will feel this is an attack against them, and the way the westboro baptist "people" do it, it most certainly is an attack.
But if it's done in the true spirit of Christianity, through honest prayer and compassion rather than hatred, it's not an attack against them, it's an attempt to help them lead normal lives instead of being afflicted with "the gay". Most gay people I know don't have a problem being gay, but have said that if they were given the choice, they would rather be heterosexual and not have to deal with all the persecution and hate that comes their way from being gay.
Do I think this "pray away the gay" thing will make much difference? Honestly, I would be surprised if it did, but I think its perfectly fine for a church to pray for the people they believe to be committing sin. In fact, I'd say it's a good thing that they're choosing this route of compassion and prayer rather than the route of hatred and fear. Replace "homosexuality" with any other sin, and nobody would bat an eye at this...
Try this one: “You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by drug addiction”
How about this: “You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by chronic gambling”
Or even: “You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by spousal abuse”
Christian churches do things like this all the fudging time. The only reason this particular incident is making any news at all is because it's touching a controversial subject and that it's related to Palin.
I don't use deodorant
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SmarmySir
| | #28 posted September 6, 2008 at 10:43am (EST) |
Well said, Mr. Cooley.
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benstylus
| | #29 posted September 6, 2008 at 10:49am (EST) |
sheesh still negged it, so i know i must be saying something right.
I don't use deodorant
-Sheesh, May 8 2008 |
Sheesh
| | #30 posted September 6, 2008 at 12:36pm (EST) |
LOL.
Such paranoia. I'll give you that negative - BAM! - now. Poor Shaun - so many negatives this week.....
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Nothing like praying for someone to be or not to be a certain way. A little pity prayer to give the believer a true sense of superiority. gosh darn it, I mean, divinity.
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Lino
| | #31 posted September 6, 2008 at 12:45pm (EST) |
I think everyone's forgetting the most important thing about Sarah Palin...
Spoiler She looks great! in those schoolteacher glasses!!! |
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Jeffro
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| | #32 posted September 6, 2008 at 12:46pm (EST) |
She should be on that Cum on my Glasses website or whatever it's called, that would be sweet!
It's better to burn out than it is to Rust |
GlassjawRules13
| | #33 posted September 6, 2008 at 12:55pm (EST) |
the fact is, intolerance towards gay people, lesbians, black people, white people etcetc. Intolerance towards fellow humans is unacceptable these days.
It's like the human race is de-evolving when, at the same time, it's evolving.
Obama isn't perfect, but he's a hell of a lot better than McCain and his running mate. It's time we as people grow the fudge up and start realizing we're all here right now, and we're going to have to deal with it. Hostility because somebody is different than you is pointless, so just give it up. |
Sheesh
| #34 posted September 6, 2008 at 1:01pm (EST)
edited September 6, 2008 at 1:03pm (EST) |
The Republican's whole platform is intolerance, fostered by the party bosses (Rove, et. al.) to motivate the base by transforming it into fear mongering - something the radical right is already predisposed to willing accept.
Glad it is not going to work this time!
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millenium_dare
| | #35 posted September 6, 2008 at 1:14pm (EST) |
HAHAHAHAH, just because you say it's so, doesn't mean it really is, Chris....
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Sheesh
| | #36 posted September 6, 2008 at 1:18pm (EST) |
Really? Fudgein' A......
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redsox5
| | #37 posted September 6, 2008 at 1:30pm (EST) |
It's not intolerance, it's not accepting it as normal. As a Christian I believe that homosexuality is a sin, but I don't hate gay people. I don't support the Westboro Baptist Church or people who beat up random gays. At the same time I don't think that it's normal behavior or should be accepted in everyday society, even though they shouldn't be prohibited from living their lives the way they want. I think that it's commendable that the church says to pray for gays rather than hate them and want them to burn in hell. |
invisibleink
| | #38 posted September 6, 2008 at 1:36pm (EST) |
how sweet it is to have sheesh filtered
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Visc
| | #39 posted September 6, 2008 at 1:43pm (EST) |
Picktor wrote:
> Wii wrote:
>> http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/USElection/2008/09/05/...
>>
>> Palin's church wants to "pray away the gay"
>> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
>>
>> ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s church is promoting
>> a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through
>> the power of prayer.
>>
>> “You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire
> to
>> transform the lives of those impacted by homosexuality,” said an
> insert
>> in the bulletin of the Wasilla Bible Church, where Palin has prayed
>> since she was a child.
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> Sounds like fun. I guess all gays worship the devil, right?
>>
>> Of course, this is as revelant as Obama's connection to his old
> pastor.
>> If you consider that important and feel the right to use it against
>> him, it's open season on her.
>>
>>
>
> Umm Wii maybe you should look at EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN CHURCH! Homosexuality
> is looked at as a major sin in all christian (the ones that follow
> the teachings of the new testament) religions.
>
> There is no mention of homosexuals "Worshiping the devil" so way to
> put your own personal spin on it .
>
>
>
> There is a difference in "attempting to convert homosexuals" and saying
> "gosh darn American, they got what they deserved with 9/11!"
>
> Totally different and no where near as extreme and far fetched..
>
> You do realize that the bible is completely against homosexuality?
> Hence why conservatives oppose any marital rights for gay marriages....
>
The bible also says to pray in the privacy of your home, not force it onto other people, and not to judge people. I'd say thats three strikes on them right there already.
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Jeffro
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| | #40 posted September 6, 2008 at 2:01pm (EST) |
redsox5 wrote:
> It's not intolerance, it's not accepting it as normal.
> As a Christian I believe that homosexuality is a sin,
> but I don't hate gay people. I don't support the Westboro
> Baptist Church or people who beat up random gays. At
> the same time I don't think that it's normal behavior
> or should be accepted in everyday society, even though
> they shouldn't be prohibited from living their lives
> the way they want. I think that it's commendable that
> the church says to pray for gays rather than hate them
> and want them to burn in hell.
Do you have sex for pleasure or to strictly procreate? If you're having sex for pleasure you're doing the exact same thing a gay man/women is doing.
Sure, as animals, it makes no sense at all to fudge for any other reasons besides procreation, but we are just like our bonobo cousins in that we absolutely LOVE the pleasure acquired from fudging.
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